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<DarkSoul> Welcome to this evening's House of Commons developer chat. WF_Joss adjusts microphone, causing shrill feedback <DarkSoul> The Cavolon are eccentric Scientists that specialize in the mastery of plant life on Atriana. Plants are important resources for many aspects of life on Atriana and can be bred for a variety of purposes. <DarkSoul> Today's House of Commons developer chat will focus on this player species and how they relate to their world. <DarkSoul> Before I get to the questions, I'd like to ask the World Fusion employees to introduce themselves =) WF_Iimzodar waves "World Builder here" <WF_Serafina> Hi, I'm Serafina, Lead Game Designer. I'm in charge of designing the gameplay and mechanics <WF_MRI> Hello! - I'm the audio / content janitor guy...hehh <WF_Joss> hi I'm Joss, you may know me better by my postin' name "Soralis" <poq> lol <WF_Joss> ummm... that's a joke <WF_Serafina> roflmao! WF_Joss taps on microphone <WF_Mythfit> Hiyas I'm one of the writer people who makes up stuff, and writes it and stuff, I am also the Creature Guy <WF_Joss> is this thing on or is the room squelched? <WF_Satyric> Heya. I'm Satyric, a writer. I'm Culture Dude. <WF_Satyric> Joss: Yes. :) <WF_Joss> ah <WF_Joss> whoa... now we're starting to come outta the woodwork <WF_Satyric> Uh-oh. They'll figure out just how many of us there are... <DarkSoul> Let's get started! <DarkSoul> To ask a question please message either Poq, Aesop, Kehleyr or Destiny. Any questions sent to myself or any member of World Fusion will be ignored. If your question is chosen you will be given voice (+V) so you may ask your question, and any follow-up questions. <WF_Arc> Hello, chief architect here. DarkSoul changes topic to " Atriarch House of Commons NOW | Topic: The Cavolon | To ask a question please message either Poq, Aesop, Kehleyr or Destiny. Any questions sent to myself or any member of World Fusion will be ignored. " <Sarvas> any questions to me will be ignored as well poq changes topic to " Atriarch House of Commons NOW | Topic: The Cavolon | To ask a question please message either Poq, Aesop, or Destiny. Any questions sent to myself or any member of World Fusion will be ignored. " <DarkSoul> Jahmbo, you have the floor =) <Jahmbo> you'll be sorry <DarkSoul> I know. <WF_Iimzodar> oh geeze :P <Jahmbo> heres a question in the vein of 'suspended belief'; A Cavolon has prehensile limbs for manouevering, wouldn't they be particularly vulnerable to attacks on their 'feet' thus making them easy prey? I mean it's pretty hard to put armor on a squids tentacles! <WF_Satyric> It's also pretty hard to hit a rapidly-moving target. <WF_Serafina> Jahmbo.. that depends if their feet are on the ground or not <Jahmbo> bzzzzz non answers dont compute <Jahmbo> :) <WF_Iimzodar> lol <WF_Serafina> sheesh Jahmbo, I don't type that fast WF_Mythfit takes away Jahmbo's poney on general principle <Jahmbo> lol <WF_Serafina> They have many different kinds of locomotion <WF_Joss> wellll... *if* such is the case then such would be part of the balance of playing the Cavolon, which, no doubt, would be well thought out and in perfect harmony WF_Joss breathes <WF_Joss> so, say hello to your new char avatar "stumpy" <WF_Serafina> also, they fight in many different ways... including getting up really high on their tentacles, swirling around with them <WF_Serafina> also, they don't need to be on all four in order to balance <Jahmbo> what im getting at is that the tentacles seem very vulnerable <WF_Satyric> Two of them could be slapping you upside the head. <WF_Serafina> they move around a lot... it isn't as easy to hit a tentacle as it would be a leg because they have much more range of motion <WF_Mythfit> try this, get close to a fire hose that is at high pressure and out of controll, see how easy it is to hit, that will be the same sort of thing at the tenticles <WF_Serafina> WF_Mythfit... ya, that's a great analogy <WF_Serafina> thanks Jahmbo <WF_Arc> LOL Mythfit. <Jahmbo> so a static 'blade' would be your defence against a flailing cavolon? <WF_Joss> doh! <WF_Joss> heheh <WF_Joss> thanks Jahmbo <Cobi|SB> From screenshots and various small comments from WF people and in the FAQ I gathered that the Cavolon grow their own buildings. Does this ability work on non-swamp climates on the other continents or is it primarily restricted to the Lands of the Cavolon? <WF_Mythfit> except its not uncontrolled flailing Cobi|SB breaks in! BAHAHA! <WF_Serafina> lol... well, to follow up on Jahmbo's question... something that tied tentacles together would work <WF_Satyric> My defense against a flailing Cavolon would be to offer it something interesting. <WF_Arc> Cobi, different types of building are grown from different materials and work best in some areas more than others. <WF_Joss> there will be a great range of building materials <WF_Serafina> Cobi|SB... good question. To clarify, most of the building materials in Atriarch are grown or harvested or mined regardless of the species <WF_Mythfit> I would throw dried garlic at the Cavalon and say it was his mother <WF_Joss> lol Bagricula is now known as Guest501160 <WF_Serafina> lol <WF_Arc> Although Cavolon are primarily swamp dwellers, being masters of plant biotechnology should give them the skills needed to grow buildings in other environements. <Cobi|SB> So, presumably, I could build a Cavolon building on the Unarran continent if I had the materials? <WF_Satyric> Right, you might just use a different plant. <WF_Joss> and the conditions were correct yes <WF_Arc> With the correct materials and conditions, yes. <WF_Serafina> They will also teach other species how to grow resources for themselves .. well, for a price of some sort... either info or trade <WF_Arc> jinx WF_Iimzodar shakes his head with a smile <WF_Joss> jinx arc Cobi|SB plots the evil implications of this... <WF_Joss> lol <WF_Arc> Thanks Cobi. <Cobi|SB> Thank ya all! <WF_Serafina> thanks Cobi|SB <DarkSoul> Kazmo, you're on! =) <WF_Serafina> hi Kazmo <Kazmo> hiya! do the cavolon labs reflect job and function in society like tyrusin castes? <WF_Joss> kind of <WF_Joss> ummmm.... lil help? <WF_Serafina> The labs are partly and obsession to know everything they can about everything. They believe the more they know, the more they can manipulate and control. With the Tyrusin it is more of an honorable choice. <Kazmo> but one makes a choice of which labs to work in or specialize in? <WF_Satyric> The lab you're currently affiliated with will reflect your 'job' at the time. But it isn't a mandatory lifelong choice like a Tyrusic Caste usually is. <WF_Serafina> Kazmo... you can specialize or generalize <WF_Joss> it's more freeflowing <WF_Serafina> There are advantages to both <Kazmo> k...any added advantage to specializing? or will a generalist eventually ahve the same skill set? <WF_Satyric> You choose a project that you're interested in. Or possibly one where you want to develop a relationship with someone else working there. <WF_Satyric> Or one you want to sabotage. The Cavolon rarely have just one simple reason for doing anything. :) <Kazmo> =) <WF_Serafina> A specialist will typically be better. Skill limits and how they work are something that we are going to watch closely during testing. <Kazmo> ok...one more.. WF_Joss feels the squelchin' wand being charged <WF_Joss> doh! <poq> eep! <WF_Serafina> hmm... I guess not.. hehe <WF_Joss> thanks Kazmo <DarkSoul> Kazmo- I'll give you a chance to ask another later, but for now we're gunna try and keep fresh faces up =) <WF_Serafina> thanks Kazmo <DarkSoul> Osweld, you're on! <WF_Serafina> hi Osweld <WF_Mythfit> Heloooo Osweld <Osweld> well, it was already sort of answered, but, Destiny From looking at the screen shots it seems that Cavolon will live inside plants/grown houses, does this mean they could build a decent house on thier own simply by growing it, or would they still need an Eshlar to build/design it if they want a really fabulous house <Osweld> oops <Osweld> minus the destiny thing :P Destiny giggles <WF_Arc> All the best structures are made by Eshlar of course :) <WF_Serafina> the house you were looking at was not player-built <Osweld> I see, how will the cavolon houses be built then? by growing? <WF_Satyric> The Cavolon were growing shelters for a long time before they met any Eshlar, so they figured out the basics. :) <WF_Joss> for the most part <WF_Serafina> They will grow the materials that can be arranged to grow together <WF_Serafina> to form a particular building <WF_Mythfit> I'm not sure of this but it seems to me that some of the best houses migh be built in tandem with an Eshlar <Osweld> Was just thinking that plants are cavolon specialty, so they might be better at growing a house <WF_Satyric> They aren't as focused on architecture as the Eshlar, though. <WF_Satyric> For one thing, in most situations Cavolon simply don't care about keeping out the rain. :) <Osweld> I see, so maybe the eshlar design it and they grow it? <WF_MRI> think 3 little pigs - which house lasted the longest? <WF_Joss> well, the cavolon and the eshlar are friendly... exchanges no doubt take place <WF_Arc> Yes Mythfit, since an Eshlar's expertise is in architecture as well as construction. The combination of Eshlar architectural skill and Cavolon plant mastery would probably produce the best Cavolon grown structures. <WF_Serafina> Yes, to follow up on what Satyric said, the Cavolon have other interests. The fact that they are skilled in growing resources or big hollow plants doesn't make them the best choice for architects. They always have other motives. <Osweld> ok :) <WF_Serafina> thanks Osweld <Kisiki> The Klora lab deals with energy manipulation..could you expand on this lab? Do you mean chemical energy? Electric? Kinetic? Are we talking about raw energy in large quantities? Would it be possible to grow a network of energy management strong enough to affect the weather? Is the Klora lab affects more subtle or more obvious? <WF_Joss> arc, shamelessly plugging away for the Eshlar <WF_Joss> tsk tsk tsk <WF_Serafina> Since we only have so much time, I'm sure you will all follow up with questions and clarifications on the boards :-) <WF_Arc> Good question... Kisiki grins <WF_Serafina> Everything alive on Atriarch requires energy. <WF_Arc> The lab produces plants that provide both potential (stored) and kinetic energy. Kinetic including thermal, electrical, and mechanical. <WF_Arc> Imagine plants that provide pumping and osmosis for example. <Kisiki> So they are fuel providers? <WF_Arc> Fuel and energy both. <WF_Satyric> There's also sonic energy. :) <WF_Arc> Light producing as well as heat. <Kisiki> Sonic...oooh <WF_Serafina> Imagine this... You need to collect energy for your building. The Klora lab would grow a plant that you would lay on your structure, similar to solar panels, for example. <WF_Arc> Yes, that too: medium propagation. <Kisiki> So could you grow a giant power plant? <Kisiki> Literally <WF_Serafina> hehe <WF_Arc> Yes. <Kisiki> And set up an electrical network? <WF_Arc> Bioelectrical, yes. <Kisiki> Oooh <WF_Satyric> Remember, very little metal. <Kisiki> Of course <WF_Arc> No metal actually. poq changes topic to " Atriarch House of Commons NOW | Topic: The Cavolon | To ask a question please message either Poq or Aesop. Any questions sent to myself or any member of World Fusion will be ignored. " <WF_Serafina> not very little NO metal <Kisiki> Iron deficiencies <Kisiki> Anyhow, so could that affect weather? <WF_Arc> Only if you are assuming hemoglobin. <Kisiki> Well, what's your replacement for it? <Kisiki> Or are they anarobic? Kisiki is on a tangent <WF_Arc> It's something, as to what, you'll have to see. <Kisiki> OKay <WF_Arc> Thanks Kisiki. <WF_Serafina> the difference between plants and creatures are the metabolism and their use of energy <DarkSoul> Soffo =) <Soffo> agh <Soffo> anyway <Soffo> If the cavolon can dual weild, obviously they will have some sort of advantage in fights, will there be other cavolon only oriented skills? obviously weapons, but what about tentacle moves, etc, making them powerfull warriors as tyrusian seem? one race shouldnt have the absolute power over others in combat <Soffo> kinda resembling warriors the only melee you need in everquest <WF_Serafina> first off, the Cavolon Quad Wield, not dual <Soffo> 1/14 classes only truely needed gets kinda.. unbalancing <WF_Satyric> The combat system will be as balanced as we can get it, of course. <WF_Serafina> and the Cavolon are probably the weakest race in terms of brute stregnth <WF_MRI> each of the species has their own set of fighting "tricks" <WF_Mythfit> We will be shoveing as much cool stuff into each race as we can, as to balance, well thats what beta is for =) <WF_Joss> aye... this is a balance question, and let us assure you we're learning from our predecessors <Soffo> yeah Mri, but do they balance out? <WF_MRI> well...er - that's the idea...heh <Soffo> say Tyrusian lightning stuff, would a cavolon have a similarly powerfull attack? <WF_Serafina> No, we are going to do our best to make sure it is completely unbalanced in favor of the Unarra <WF_Joss> just trust us when we say we'll go to great lengths to balance everything <WF_Mythfit> W00t Unarra <WF_Joss> lol <WF_Serafina> Soffo.. btw, it is Tyrusin, not Tyrusian <Soffo> =/ <WF_Arc> Balancing one on one combat is less of an issue when you can have bodyguards or an army at your back. <Soffo> well, as long as unarra look like wood elves in eq... <WF_Satyric> Or nasty tricks planted all over the landscape. :) <WF_Serafina> working on it Soffo <Soffo> well, yeah Arc <Soffo> hehe <Soffo> but Eq did PvE <Soffo> and their pvp system is all luck <WF_Satyric> Thanks, Soffo. <WF_Serafina> the quad yield is mostly because the Cavolon are paranoid. They have to be prepared to be attacked from any angle <WF_Serafina> They always go overboard in preparations. <WF_Joss> hit a and pray <WF_Serafina> can never be too prepared as a Cavolon. <WF_Serafina> thanks Soffo <WF_Serafina> hi GD|Ykz <GD|Ykz> OMG.. a +... well my earlier question got answered but here goes a simplier question <GD|Ykz> Will the Cavolon tentacles be able to manipulate small objects <WF_Mythfit> Balance is primary, and as long as people are complaining about it then I think were doing well, it is my opinion that if you started a mud with 4 classes that all had warrior ablitites but you gave them diffrent names for the skills then you would still have complaints about balance, it's when everyone plays the same class/race that you have problems <WF_Serafina> well put WF_Mythfit <WF_Joss> heheh <WF_Serafina> small objects? Haven't you noticed that in Atriarch EVERYTHING is big? <WF_Joss> amen <WF_Satyric> lol <WF_MRI> GD_Ykz - are you asking if the tentacles are articulate as fingers would be? <GD|Ykz> yes <GD|Ykz> you know the whole thumb thingy <WF_Mythfit> ya, even the canopeners are huge <WF_Iimzodar> lol <WF_Satyric> Depends on how much concentration's focused on that particular tentacle at the time. <WF_MRI> most likely you'll use your (the cavolon's) hands for precision <GD|Ykz> no follow up.. wasn't my original question. but hey.. its a question. <WF_Serafina> for those of you who don't know Gary... he's our network manager :-) I don't know if he introduced himself earlier.. got here late. <WF_Serafina> thanks GD|Ykz <Kisiki> Seeing as the Cavolon are a very secretive, paranoid, and long-term planning species (Similar to Pupeteers...aww I love them both), I'd assume that ANon would fully support promoting Cavolon interests through Cavolons working through other factions then his. If so will there be a way for the Cavolons spread over ATriana to plan? <WF_Serafina> Kisiki.. welcome back <Kisiki> Thanks =) <WF_Serafina> Kisiki... we could tell you, but then everyone would know, eh? <WF_Satyric> Cavolon aren't as cowardly as Pierson's Puppeteers, by the way. :) <Kisiki> Right =) <WF_Serafina> hehe... but they are as paranoid, even more so <WF_Satyric> And much more devious. <Kisiki> So, Serafina, could you tell me since I plan to be Cavolon? <WF_Iimzodar> hah Kisiki grins <WF_Joss> way for them to spread? <WF_Joss> you mean physically? <WF_Satyric> Cavolon society's pretty open in a lot of ways. They mainly do what interests them or furthers their multiple plans. <Kisiki> Btw will there be prejudiace between Major faction Cavolon and Minor? <WF_Serafina> In the game, there will be ample opportunity for players to make groups of nearly any sort. That includes the Cavolon. <Kisiki> But it's the plans that everyone must know their part of <WF_Serafina> If you are talking about secret societies and secret clubs, etc... well, if I said them here, they wouldn't be secrets anymore color="#AACCAA"><Kisiki> So I was wondering if Cavolon society had a sustem for telling everyone their role in the grand plans <WF_Satyric> Several. :) <Kisiki> Evasion...but justified <Kisiki> Thanks, Satyric <WF_Satyric> Sometimes conflicting ones. <WF_Serafina> Kisiki... learning the plans are part of learning at each of the labs <WF_Mythfit> when you are an initiate, then some of your path will be revealed, but only some, more as you grow wiser <WF_Satyric> "How many Cavolon does it take to change a light bulb? Three. One to change it, and one to confuse the issue." <Kisiki> So are the Labs only if you belong to the major faction? <WF_Joss> you'll be on a need to know basis <WF_Joss> lol <Kisiki> Or could you be an initiate to a lab without being a member of the major faction? <WF_Serafina> Kisiki... by nature of being born into the Cavolon, you are a part of the Cavolon Empire. <WF_Serafina> That leadership I am sure will be challenged once the game commences. <WF_Satyric> We'll talk more about how labs get set up, and what resources you need to join or initiate one later. <Kisiki> And how will major faction cavolons treat non-major faction cavolons? <WF_Arc> That depends on the players, doesn't it. <WF_Serafina> Kisiki... I don't recommend traitorous actions <Kisiki> And can a player have double citizenship? In the major faction and a minor one? <WF_Satyric> I don't think there's any societal pressure among Cavolons to join certain factions, aside from the main one. <Kisiki> This is important for my character <WF_Serafina> I should clarify something about the factions... they work a little differently than you are used to with guilds... <WF_MRI> it's not so black and white <WF_Joss> ate <WF_Joss> err <WF_Joss> yeah <WF_Serafina> A Major Faction can have several Minor Factions under its umbrella. Kisiki adores the Cavolons <Kisiki> Thank you for giving us them <Kisiki> Thank you for your help <WF_Serafina> hehe <WF_Satyric> Thanks for your question. <WF_Serafina> thanks Kisiki <WF_Serafina> hi Mystican Mystican waves to the team. <Mystican> On the Species Profile, it states that the Cavolon control "a vine-like tongue that extends outward from a tentacle." Can you explain their abilities/functions in more detail, and also, it said that if "healthy" one could swing from them like vines? Could you tell us more about that form of travel and how one keeps one's "tongues" healthy? :) WF_Iimzodar waves back <DarkSoul> hehehe <WF_Satyric> I believe that refers to a healthy Cavolon, rather than a specific tongue. :) WF_Mythfit waves too Mystican also assumed from the fact that one can swing "from tongue to tongue" that there is one for each of the four tentacles. <WF_Serafina> The tongue is actually something that will come from the tentacle. <WF_Serafina> well, don't make that assumption Mystican Mystican takes back his assumption. WF_Serafina grins. <WF_Serafina> The tongue will have its own "health" <WF_Serafina> Like most of the unique abilities, it takes extra energy to actually use the ability. <WF_Serafina> It will tire a character faster by using it. <WF_Serafina> right now, I am using the term "health" but that is probably not the best term. <WF_Mythfit> otherwise it won't work and you'll end up tongue tied Mystican grins. Mystican wonders if Mythfit meant that literally.. <WF_Iimzodar> lol Mythfit :) WF_Mythfit imagins a cavalon swinging from a branch by his tongue unable to release <WF_Serafina> Let me just insert here that we do not necessarily promise the ability to tie rope or anything for that matter into a knot <WF_Arc> Yes, please don't promise that :) <WF_Serafina> hehe... want to make sure we don't suggest a feature will be there that won't <WF_MRI> but could probably be attatched with some type of "organic" glue WF_Mythfit almost says somthing but changes his mind, the cat got his tongue <Mystican> Exactly how can one use the vine-tongue for travel, swinging, if there are less than 4? Or am I making more assumptions about their nature? :) <WF_Serafina> yes, it is kind of a cross between Spiderman and that creature in Half Life Mystican bows his head in shame. He never played Half-Life. <WF_Serafina> Mystican... two is all that is needed <WF_Serafina> for travel anyway Mystican nods. "True." <WF_Mythfit> like the grappling hook mod on quake II <Mystican> Do the "tongues" have anything to do with spawning? <WF_Mythfit> at least i hope so <WF_Serafina> Mystican... good question <WF_Serafina> hmm... WF_Mythfit.. interesting answer <WF_Serafina> to the spawning question that is <WF_Serafina> The Cavolon reproduce by releasing spores that grow into a Cavolon. <WF_Mythfit> erk, no, I ment,. . . -sigh- <WF_Serafina> hehe Mystican thought he was hoping that the tongues act like the grappling hook mod. <WF_Serafina> Mystican... more like a suction cup <WF_Serafina> that suctions only to certain surfaces <WF_Serafina> thanks Mystican <Mystican> :) <Mystican> Thanks. Mystican waves. <Kazmo> So, there are Kuj Labs for influence, mind alteration, and hallucinogens. Are these used for torture and interrogation, recreation, vision quests, what? Also...*looks around fearful of the gong* Am I to understand that a Cavolon will always be considered a "better" Cavolon if he stays close to the lab instead of wandering around peddling wares every now and then? <Kazmo> =P <WF_Arc> Yes to the first part of the question. <Kazmo> hehe <Kazmo> wo0t <WF_Arc> But also include manipulation, since that is a Cavolon specialty. Kazmo hopes to breed some Cavolon Roofies. =) <WF_Serafina> These will have some effects that would in other games be associated with things known as "spells" <WF_Iimzodar> Never trust a free drink from a Cavolon :) <Kazmo> oh..so not like getting drunk in EQ <WF_Serafina> no, not drunk in EQ... these labs will produce items that are useful <WF_Arc> Charm, for example. <Kazmo> gotcha. a use for something. wow! u guys really do have one up over VI <poq> lol <Kazmo> err..many more than 1 up <WF_Serafina> VI? <WF_Joss> Verant <WF_Serafina> ah <WF_Arc> Or lull, pacify, etc. for other examples. <Kazmo> =) <Kazmo> and the wandering cavolon thing? <WF_Serafina> The Cavolon can go wherever they want just like any other species as long as they are equipped <WF_Serafina> and are welcome <WF_Arc> It is already mentioned in the species profile that cavolon that wander about come under suspicion. Kazmo will read closer next time. <Kazmo> ok...thanks much all....you rox0rz! <WF_Joss> The cavolon are paticularly "alien" <poq> <Zang> question: can Cavolon ride animals? and how's that work with the tentacle bottoms? <poq> oof <poq> Sorry! <WF_Arc> And that they usually come back with good information or items to get back into the good graces of the other Cavolon. <WF_Serafina> To follow up on what Arc said, everyone knows Cavolon have a purpose that is not necessarily been revealed. <WF_MRI> it looks a little funny, but they can still ride animals <poq> Zang, you're up. Sorry about that. =) <WF_Serafina> They have a special mount called a Siski <Zang> That was my question aboy\ut the cavolon riding...and I'd like to say I love everything i'm seeing so far <WF_Arc> No relation to Kisiki LOL <WF_Joss> it's accommodating to theit physiology <WF_Mythfit> as in 'Hey look at that big Siski!' <WF_Serafina> thanks Zang <Zang> :) <poq> You have the floor, Chizi. <Chizi-jibini> Well, howdy <Chizi-jibini> Ok, here we go <Chizi-jibini> To kind of expand on Kisiki's question...The Dharuba Mkondo, for example, will incorporate all species...what major faction would they be considered to be under, if any? And do they have to be under a major faction at all? <WF_Serafina> DM is considered a Minor Faction until they actually reach Major Faction status within the game. <WF_Serafina> That status will be difficult to reach because it will require building an empire. <WF_Serafina> The Minor Faction will not be under a Major Faction, it will be considered independent <WF_Joss> of course, they could always try and "borrow" an existing empire, components of it at least <WF_Serafina> borrow... hehe <WF_Satyric> Or just take it over entirely. :) <Chizi-jibini> heh ok, so we don't have to be vassals to a major faction <WF_Serafina> You can apply for membership as a Minor Faction to a Major Faction, but since the current Major Factions are all species-specific, I doubt that will happen unless you have something significant to offer <WF_Satyric> Different species have tighter or looser societal structures. <WF_Serafina> individual species are considered members of their Major Faction whether they want to or not <WF_Satyric> The Cavolon's is pretty loose in that regard. <WF_Serafina> For example, if Xol calls upon *all* Tyrusin to build an army for something, then you better well respond <WF_Iimzodar> ;¬) WF_Joss flashes a toothy smile... *really* toothy <WF_Serafina> This is where some of the conflict in the game will come. <WF_Serafina> You will see challenges to the existing power structure <WF_MRI> makes for a nice tension builder <WF_Serafina> of course, the Unarra will rule all <WF_Satyric> Whereas if Anon calls *all* the Cavolon to do something, almost all of them would probably figure out that it'd be in their best interest, or there'd be some advantage gained, from doing it. <WF_Joss> *bah* <Chizi-jibini> Ah.....well, ok, that's rather informative all the way around...thanks a lot. <WF_Serafina> thanks :-) WF_Joss slams fist on table <WF_Iimzodar> of course boss :P <Soffo> What exactly will genetic alteration be? say, for instance, growing a plant with the effects of soffo plant within it as well as another, or making a plant grow over maybe 3 years, which then spores and crates a plant creature of its own with different characteristics, like the ability to grow rare vegetables and herbs on it <Soffo> [20:31] <Soffo> which create new medicines and alchemical combinations <WF_Arc> I hope the Unarra like sleeping in the rain. <WF_Iimzodar> HAHA, here we go :) <WF_Satyric> Heheh. <Soffo> see <Soffo> I told you they were waiting for that question <WF_Satyric> Cavolon prefer it, Arc. :) <Soffo> would it also be possible to plaque people with that? <WF_Serafina> Soffo... let's back up for a second <Soffo> like grow a flower on their heads <Soffo> hehe <WF_Serafina> MRI can't stay much longer and he wanted to answer your audio question before you leave <WF_Serafina> would you mind asking that one first? <Soffo> audio? <WF_MRI> oops - maybe that was somebody else requesting that - sorry! <WF_Serafina> hehe <poq> oof <WF_Serafina> WF_MRI is going to answer the audio question before he leaves.. hehe.. thanks to whoever asked it <poq> Shorgs, your "speaking" question? <poq> hmm <poq> looks like he's AFk. <shorgs|SB> oi <shorgs|SB> sorry <poq> eheh <shorgs|SB> move on I'm asking MRI seperate <shorgs|SB> nm again <WF_MRI> lets just answer here <shorgs|SB> in here :) <WF_Serafina> no, don't ask separate.. questions here only please <poq> <shorgs|SB> In the mov's that have been released the playable species have been speaking in the native tongue...now will this option be avalable for players in normal play...can we type a message in, have to displayed and also have are char say it aloud in game? <poq> that was the question. =) <shorgs|SB> ok, In all the movies that have been released they have shown the chars talking in the native lang... <poq> lol <shorgs|SB> yes <shorgs|SB> there we go <WF_MRI> The plan is to have speech occur (optionally) when you chat <shorgs|SB> :) <shorgs|SB> nice <WF_Satyric> The actual language may change between now and release. <WF_MRI> the text will obviously be in the language you typed it in, but you will hear the alien language <WF_Satyric> Like so many things in Atriarch. :) <WF_MRI> thats the "Plan" anyways...heh <shorgs|SB> glad to hear its not gonna be NPC only...err natives <shorgs|SB> thanks <WF_MRI> sure! <poq> Another one for MRI... <haiku> hi <haiku> MRI-Composing music and creating sound effects for a new and completely different game such as Atriarch must be an interesting experience. Where do you find your inspiration? <WF_MRI> I get it literally from everyone on the team (I know - it's a pc answer) <haiku> :P <haiku> thats it? XD <WF_MRI> not to mention the fans ideas... :) <WF_Iimzodar> heh haiku grins <haiku> thx! <WF_MRI> Sure! <WF_Satyric> Just wait 'till you see (or hear) how cool some of his stuff is. :) <Sarvas> poq is good at music, hire him <GD|Ykz> Will the graphics incorporate head movements that correspond with the mouse look <WF_Arc> Probably. <GD|Ykz> also i have to say this... Bah Cavolon.. be a real species.. be a Tyrusin.. Long live Atriarch Xol!!! <WF_Serafina> Right now just the character turns. WF_Satyric gets the hook for Ykz. <poq> bastage. <WF_Arc> It doesn't yet, but it's on the feature list. We'll see. <WF_Serafina> GD obviously doesn't know about the Unarra <WF_Joss> ARRRR <GD|Ykz> sorry <WF_Joss> Someone just earned themselves a place in the empire <WF_Joss> :) <poq> Look what you did.. you got'em all riled up. <poq> =) <WF_Satyric> And a nasty foot fungus. :) <Chizi-jibini> wee...me again <poq> Chizi, you're up. <Chizi-jibini> ok, the Dhaurba Mkondo will not really ever be an "Empire" persay, as we don't really seek to acquire land. Will there be any hope of us achieving major faction status? <WF_Serafina> hi Chizi-jibini... next question, we're gonna answer one from a new person :-) <WF_Serafina> Chizi-jibini.. no <WF_Joss> short answer: prolly not <poq> lol <poq> ouch. <WF_Joss> gotta be ambitious <WF_Iimzodar> hah <WF_Satyric> Unless you somehow become a new sentient species. :) <WF_Arc> If you want an empire, you need a place for it. <poq> Tigg, your turn =) <WF_Serafina> Don't get me wrong... hehe... you can still become a very powerful Minor Faction, but Major Factions are specific to empires. <WF_Mythfit> you can always become a shadow empire <Tigg> The profile indicates that the Cavolon are fragile. What is their philosophy on battle? Do they avoid it all costs, or seek it out only when they are well-prepared? <WF_Mythfit> i think they usually manipulate others into fighting their battles for them <WF_Satyric> If at all possible. <WF_Serafina> They will use personal melee combat only as a last resort. <WF_Arc> Cavolon seek to gain advantage over others, if battle provides that advantage then they do it, if not then not. <WF_Satyric> Or into battle on their terms. <WF_Mythfit> combat is so destructive, and rarely really settles anything <WF_Satyric> Remember, there's a lot more to warfare than personal strength or toughness. <WF_Satyric> And it's only one of many tools to accomplish things. <WF_Serafina> Combat is fun, but usually only when you win. <WF_Mythfit> combat is more fun when your not involved, and everyone else loses <WF_Serafina> at least for a Cavolon <WF_Arc> Cavolon are devious. Although direct confrontation may sometimes become necessary, they excel far more at manipulation and subtley. <WF_Serafina> thanks <poq> hehe <poq> Eyeke, you're up. PirateEyeke faints <PirateEyeke> Okay, well my question is about PC boats <WF_Iimzodar> heh, <WF_Mythfit> of course <WF_Joss> say it tough guy <PirateEyeke> I know that you guys hate me, for it is my duty to be hated <WF_Serafina> really? Is that how you phrased it? <poq> lol <PirateEyeke> lol WF_Joss taps his clawed hand <PirateEyeke> ok, well are they ever going to be in game? <WF_Mythfit> I sure hope so, i wish to sail the seas of Atriana as well <WF_Serafina> yes, there will be boats, underwater cities, water creatures and every other water thing you can imagine... later <PirateEyeke> and if so, can we fight from them? Why have pets that fly and boats that you can't move? :) <WF_Joss> aye, I need warships <PirateEyeke> later? :( <WF_Serafina> later means that there is no way that every single feature will make it into a game, water stuff is one of them <PirateEyeke> :( ok <WF_Serafina> It will be an update or later release <PirateEyeke> I'm done, GO SCIENCE!!!! <poq> =p <Bialar_Crais|SB> Ok :-P <poq> Bialar Crais, you're up. Bialar_Crais|SB takes a breath <Bialar_Crais|SB> It says in the profile that "Skin and Eye colors reflect natural habitat." Does that change when you go somewhere new and hang around for a while, or is it static... based on where you start your character out? <WF_Serafina> There is a possibility boats will make it into the game... but no promises <WF_Serafina> I want to clarify PirateEyeke's statement from before... <WF_Serafina> physics will be there for stuff to float, etc... however, there may not be *specific* boating features <WF_Serafina> that's all I wanted to add to that.. <WF_Serafina> hi Bialar_Crais|SB <Bialar_Crais|SB> hey hey Bialar_Crais|SB points upward for the question <WF_Serafina> no, it is based on what you choose during customizations... however, the choices are limited to what you would see in a typical Cavolon environment <WF_Joss> it's not like that GI Joe action figure... <WF_Joss> can't remember the name <WF_Joss> doh <WF_Joss> nm <poq> lol <Bialar_Crais|SB> ok :-P <Bialar_Crais|SB> Thanks for answering my Question <poq> Well... that concludes tonight's Atriarch House of Commons. <poq> Expect a log to be posted on Atriarch Stratics soon. <WF_Serafina> thanks for coming everyone <WF_Joss> thank you all very much <WF_Iimzodar> Thanks for coming folks :) <poq> Thanks for attending, and thanks, WF, for coming! <WF_Arc> Thanks and bye. <Kisiki> How do you plan to implement cross breeding? Are you thinking of real life cross breeding of two plants or of a more genetic engineering thing or a combination? Is there an idea of how long it will take to cross breed plants? And...on an unrelated topic, do you plan to implement the major factions before release so they can plan? Also is it only the Burra lab that cross breeds or do they all? If all then what are the major difference? <King_of_Dreams|SB> I was wanting to know the differences between cavalon and non-cavalon botanists. <WF_Joss> Kisiki- we have a system for it, don't fear <WF_Joss> :) <King_of_Dreams|SB> Like will we study at the labs, will we be able to get equal skill etc... <Daelus-OrbOfFire> ok.. who's got the biggest siski? <WF_Serafina> The siski isn't actually that big. <Zang> When do we start Beta :)? <Mystican> Serafina: Could you quickly say who will play Atriarch Anon? From the HoC, I seemed to get the impression that it will be Satyric? <WF_Serafina> Zang... not until next year <Soffo> Serafina, cavolon look like the #1 mule char in atriarch, thats why I wanted to know the combat stuff <WF_Serafina> Mystican.. you would be correct <King_of_Dreams|SB> As a lokai botanist will I study at labs? Will I be able to get equal skill to a Cavalon? <Hags> when do we get specifics on building a structure....? hehe, developers love schedules no. Mystican nods. <Mystican> Joss - Xol <Mystican> Arc - Eshlar <Soffo> they've got all the enhancement skills that others dont get <Mystican> You - Unarra <Soffo> to make special stuff <Mystican> That would leave...Lokai Afton <Soffo> tyrusian have combat <WF_Serafina> Hags... when we release the Eshlar Profile <WF_Serafina> Hags.. well, at least some information <Kisiki> Hrm, where's Satyric? <Mystican> He left earlier. <WF_Joss> he had to take off <EolirinXianve> KoD, I doubt the Cavs would let you use their labs. PirateEyeke - Pirate Atriarch <Hags> ack, but it takes the arcitects i work with weeks just to make CHANGES... <EolirinXianve> They're very secretive. <Zang> So, who do I send bribes to for Alpha testing ? <Hags> much less whole buildings <Kisiki> Darn, need to speak to Satyric <Hags> since im the paranoid nut who guards his outhouse with a minefeild i'd like to know as much as i can before i actually start something so i dont have to scrap it all and start over <King_of_Dreams|SB> Well, I mean will we have the same types of labs? Or will we study on our own? <EtherDais> Did anyone ask about the secret labs while I was away, or did we make a consensus that WF wasn't going to tell us anything about them? =D <Mystican> Iimzodar: ... Afton? <WF_Iimzodar> Nay Mystican <WF_Joss> Ether- if we told you IT WOULDNT BE A SECRET <Synon|FoA> I don't think Iimz is going to be an atriarch <EtherDais> That was the answer I was expecting =D <WF_Iimzodar> Only if asked <Mystican> Mythfit? Afton? <poq> Iimz'll be atriarch of evil. <Hags> well, at least i got my answer, to one of a few dozen, next chat i'll ask one of my "essay" questions :) <Synon|FoA> lol <King_of_Dreams|SB> Basically can my Lokai be a great botanist? Or will I always be second rate to a cavalon? <Daelus-OrbOfFire> i'm wondering if their's going to be ways to increase cavalone 'skills' by weilding a certain item or eating a certain plant or so forth. <WF_Joss> K_o_D - you'd be at a disadvantage yes <Mystican> Eol: Just wondering if it would be any of the current WF staff we've met...so thought I'd ask. <WF_Serafina> Daelus-OrbOfFire... yes, but only temporarily <Hags> a personal goal in game for me is to build a hut for my personal use, protected by mazes, bodyguards, complex traps and many other devious devices <Kisiki> btw Cavolon is misspelled on the Atriarch site <WF_Joss> K_o_d not at a disadvantage, the cavolon would have a great advantage over you, I should say <Zang> Unarra, Unarra, Unarra...woo <WF_Serafina> woo unarra! Kisiki mutters "...Unaraa...Cavolon...better" <GD|Ykz> woo Tyrusin Mystican cheers for the Unarra, his 2nd favorite species after his beloved Cavolon. (Sorry, Serafina!) <King_of_Dreams|SB> So, I will just have to work at it to overcome their advantage then? <EolirinXianve> Eshlar. <Synon|FoA> wooo Eshlar! <GD|Ykz> damn your Unarra and their organic mounds... =) <EolirinXianve> esshlllaarrr <Daelus-OrbOfFire> blah, i keep misspelling cavolon myself.. and that's the race i wanna play ! Zang smoothes back its head-tentacles, and pets its shap. <EolirinXianve> die Unarra die! <WF_Serafina> Kisiki.. it is? Where? <poq> cavolon cavloon! <GD|Ykz> cavolon?!?! isn't that a dish pizza hut serves? <Kisiki> On one of the little pop ups when you hold your mouse over the picture it says Cavalon <King_of_Dreams|SB> Any ways, thanks for answering. <King_of_Dreams|SB> Gota go study. <Kisiki> Let me find the specific <WF_Serafina> Kisiki... hehe... oops.. do you know which one? <Kisiki> Give me a moment <Synon|FoA> http://www.atriarch.com/worldofatriana/characters/characters.html <Mystican> On the main character page <Synon|FoA> thata one <Kisiki> Yeah <poq> WOO ATRIARCH! <Hags> GD, you mean a calsone? <WF_Joss> see you all <Eshlarbuilder|SB> Hey i wanted to ask you something Sarafina <GD|Ykz> hehe <WF_Joss> thanks again <GD|Ykz> hey Joss <Kisiki> Bye, Joss <Synon|FoA> Later Joss <Hags> or calzone... something like that Mystican connects each WF employee to species and tries to get the Atriarch names right. <Synon|FoA> bah to my timing! <Eshlarbuilder|SB> Mythfit <Eshlarbuilder|SB> i need to ask you something <WF_Mythfit> yes <Kisiki> Mystican, who do you think will be Anon? <WF_Mythfit> you can try =) <Kisiki> I must find Anon <Daelus-OrbOfFire> any new screenshots coming out soon? I LUV the movies, but i'd like to see more of the landscape. Kisiki seeks "Anon: <Kisiki> " <EolirinXianve> Satyric is the Cavolon Atriarch. <Mystican> Joss - Atriarch Xol of the Tyrusin. Satyric - Atriarch Anon of the Cavolon. Arc - Atriarch - of the Eshlar. Serafina - Atriarch - of the Unarra. - - Afton of the Lokai. <Hags> well, i'll make sure to try to remember to post all my complicated questions on several sites <WF_Serafina> Daelus-OrbOfFire.. yes, Thursday there will be new screenshots <Hags> g'night all <Eshlarbuilder|SB> im not sure if this was asked but can you tell me more about the grenn labs <Daelus-OrbOfFire> nice <poq> WOOT new screenshots <Eshlarbuilder|SB> please <Kisiki> If I sent an E-mail to WF could you all forward it to Anon? <Kisiki> Err <Kisiki> Satyric <Eshlarbuilder|SB> need more info on the grenn labs please <Synon|FoA> lol <WF_Mythfit> I could tell you about the labs, but I would be makeing it up <Zang> There's no mail delivery in Atrianna yet..better send it to Satyric ;) <Eshlarbuilder|SB> dang <Kisiki> Hmmm Kisiki ponders Mystican wonders if questions as to the Atriarch names for the Eshlar and Unarra will be evaded. Kisiki is now known as Bagricula <Tyranis> will we see any Sceens with Altered Races, say the Unarra with personalization? <Eshlarbuilder|SB> mythfit there was something about there being 6 races not 5 any info? WF_Mythfit evades all questions expertly <WF_Serafina> no, we will not be showing character customization yet <Daelus-OrbOfFire> btw, the guardian movie owns. <Zang> Will Unnara be able to have stripes? <PirateEyeke> Serafina, can i ask an eshlar question? <Eshlarbuilder|SB> are there going to be 6 races not just five <GD|Ykz> Unarra's need tails!!! <WF_Mythfit> 5 races at release, no promises for the future <Eshlarbuilder|SB> ooh.. <Eshlarbuilder|SB> i thought i heard something avout 6 <Reaperman> Eshlarbuilder: there's be rumors about the 6th race for a long time, including the possibility that they live on a Lost Continent, currently under a Torpor Storm <poq> the poqrace. <Eshlarbuilder|SB> lol <Daelus-OrbOfFire> still going with just 3 character slots per account, or undecided? <Eshlarbuilder|SB> cool Mystican should go, as he needs to complete a lab assignment for tomorrow...and study for a Thursday exam. <Zang> hideous creatures PirateEyeke = ignored <WF_Mythfit> rumors are funny like that, if I were to deny them they would only grow =) Zang blinks at poq. <Reaperman> oh, and poq has been spreading rumors that they're a species of "poq" <Eshlarbuilder|SB> ya <Synon|FoA> There is a species of poq <Reaperman> but otherwise, it's a rumor that surfaces off and on <PirateEyeke> i know all about rumors growing <Bagricula> One question: Will the Major Factions become active before Beta? Could I work out some treaties with them? <Eshlarbuilder|SB> umm... are the eshlar the only race that can custom build structres Mystican waves to everyone, and thanks the team for a worthwhile HoC. <WF_Mythfit> no, the eshlar just happen to be best at it, but we knew that already <Eshlarbuilder|SB> oh Mystican slithers away. Bagricula taps tentacles in farewell to Mystican <WF_Serafina> the Major Factions are controlled by WF <Eshlarbuilder|SB> i love the shlar WOOOO <GD|Ykz> Myth who again is the specie dewd? <Tyranis> Roughly how many natives are there already created <Bagricula> Right, so, Serafina, should I E-mail you about a treaty? <Synon|FoA> lol <Eshlarbuilder|SB> umm... if there is one empire that controls the entire world would WF put penalties on it <WF_Mythfit> dunno, thats more of a general effort, I'm the Creature Dewd <GD|Ykz> well we need tails on the Unarra <Reaperman> Bagricula: it's hard to send the Swiss Chocolate that goes with the treaty negotiations via email... <Eshlarbuilder|SB> would there be penalties <Eshlarbuilder|SB> for a empire that gets a monopoly on everythin ie:microsoft <Bagricula> Well, Serafina, should I contact you or do you have a minister of foreign affairs? <Zang> Are any of the WF staff currently Glurg-Worshippers? <Bagricula> Hehe <Eshlarbuilder|SB> Is there <NotSai[Bias]KE> I geuss the HoC thing is over <Bagricula> Or followers of Mtukufu? <PirateEyeke> me me <NotSai[Bias]KE> Its ok now, you can all come out <WF_Mythfit> no penalties, thats the game, eventually you will be able to overthrow the WF atriarchs and install your own governments, but be ready for a fight <NotSai[Bias]KE> Sereafina is the supreme dictator of the WF faction <Eshlarbuilder|SB> oooh <NotSai[Bias]KE> All the other WF people are Serafina's humble servants <WF_Mythfit> nothing humble about any of us ) <Reaperman> I dunno about humble.. <NotSai[Bias]KE> Heheh <Eshlarbuilder|SB> would WF have more powerful skills then other peole Synon|FoA sure hopes not <Daelus-OrbOfFire> hmmm.... they answered that before eshlarbuilder... <NotSai[Bias]KE> Shit <Daelus-OrbOfFire> can't remember their answer though... <Eshlarbuilder|SB> i wasnt here <Synon|FoA> they get a head start, of course ;) <GD|NetNinja> sorry <NotSai[Bias]KE> The chat went tool ong <NotSai[Bias]KE> Half of its scrolled off <Reaperman> they'll start with more resources, being Atriarchs, but otherwise, they're "normal" characters <GD|NetNinja> got disconnected <Daelus-OrbOfFire> yeah. <Eshlarbuilder|SB> dang <WF_Mythfit> no, Just regular players, but the atriarch will start out with all the stuff, God mode is no fun <Eshlarbuilder|SB> thats cheap <NotSai[Bias]KE> I assume that WF will be tough to beat <NotSai[Bias]KE> They probably know the game inside adn out <Eshlarbuilder|SB> it will be possible <WF_Serafina> yes we will! <Daelus-OrbOfFire> hehehe.. wouldn't be fun if you could "Rush" the atriarchs on teh first day :) <NotSai[Bias]KE> And they start out with extra stuff GD|NetNinja wants serafina to have a tail as a Unarra <NotSai[Bias]KE> If anyone ever takes over the entire world, will the server be reset? <WF_Serafina> extra stuff? hehe... yes, I guess you could call an empire and standing army "extra stuff" <Eshlarbuilder|SB> Serafina would it be pretty much impossible to beat Wfs empire <WF_Serafina> NotSai[Bias]KE... no, it will not <NotSai[Bias]KE> Heh <NotSai[Bias]KE> Cool <Zang> Sai, it is Glurg's will.... <WF_Serafina> Eshlarbuilder|SB... no, it will be possible <WF_Mythfit> No, becasue that kind of monoploy breeds rebelion, thatn the story will really get good <Eshlarbuilder|SB> what continent will you be on <NotSai[Bias]KE> That leaves all kinds of interesting scenarios <Zang> That there be one Empire <Daelus-OrbOfFire> we all know the eshlar are going to be the first race to be enslaved *grin* <Eshlarbuilder|SB> hmmm... i think not <NotSai[Bias]KE> For example, when the Karshan Empire stomps the entire world, little barbarian resistance movements can start up <WF_Serafina> Daelus-OrbOfFire... by whom? <Daelus-OrbOfFire> hehehe <GD|NetNinja> Avian species in future works? workable or out of the question? <EtherDais> Use Sun Tzu's methods and you can take em =D <Eshlarbuilder|SB> ya <Daelus-OrbOfFire> i'm just funnin <Eshlarbuilder|SB> its required in our place Bialar_Crais|SB whips out a garden hose, and sprays Daelus-OrbOfFire with rusty water <Bialar_Crais|SB> watch what you are saying there! <Bialar_Crais|SB> :-P <Eshlarbuilder|SB> Serafina will the WF team be spread out or will it be just one empire <WF_Mythfit> Don't worry Ether, we read the art of war too =) <NotSai[Bias]KE> Dammit <EtherDais> Excellent =D <EtherDais> What about the DUNE series? <NotSai[Bias]KE> Must find advantage over God-like devs! PirateEyeke wants to know what the Art of War has to do with Atriarch <Bagricula> Oooh, Dune <WF_Mythfit> of course <Reaperman> Eshlatbuilder: spread out.. if it's one empire, there's only ONE Atriarch.. :) Bagricula wants to find a Dune Online <Eshlarbuilder|SB> ooh Bagricula wants it to be good <NotSai[Bias]KE> Blag <Eshlarbuilder|SB> good point <NotSai[Bias]KE> SC online <Zang> The Art of War is one of the finest books on militart strategy ever written <NotSai[Bias]KE> That would rock PirateEyeke doesn't know how an alien world, with cool stuff like "SCIENCE," would use something as lame as The Arot of War <EtherDais> Everything Eyeke, Art of War is based with the idea of a standing army, pre-gunpowder <Daelus-OrbOfFire> world is going to be pretty huge. going to be VERY tough to take over the entire thing <NotSai[Bias]KE> I'd say THE finest <Eshlarbuilder|SB> itd be possible <NotSai[Bias]KE> Ah but you don't have to take over everything <WF_Mythfit> Art of war still works, even in RTS games <Eshlarbuilder|SB> ya <NotSai[Bias]KE> Just the major cities <Zang> The Prince was also good, more political though <NotSai[Bias]KE> yeah <Eshlarbuilder|SB> u hu <WF_Mythfit> mmorpgs could learn alot from the prince <Daelus-OrbOfFire> yeah. but taking over the major cities just creates focal points that must be reclaimed. heh. <Zang> and "The conquest of Gual" is still a good read :) <WF_Serafina> The entire world will not be available at release, but it will fill up fast <Eshlarbuilder|SB> zang is there ny possibilyty of an alliance between SB and the Zang empire <PirateEyeke> i read the prince, and the art of war, before making FU <PirateEyeke> guess what <EtherDais> Dune seems to have many remnants of a time past, since knife fighting is useful =P <Bagricula> Actually, SB and KE are VERY similar <PirateEyeke> didn't learn anything, guess i'm stupid, lol <Zang> yes, provided that we can agree on Glurg-Worship being a state religion, and so on... <NOTHERE> are the designers er whoever still here? <WF_Mythfit> Like Machiaveli (sp) said if your going to nerf someone, do it all at once instead of bit by bit over time NOTHERE is now known as Wuulfe <WF_Mythfit> of course I'm paraphraseing <WF_Serafina> hey Wuulfe Reaperman laughs at the thought of Machiaveli using the word "nerf" <WF_Serafina> all HoC's come with the standard world fusion disclaimor by the way <Wuulfe> hey <Wuulfe> see yall! <Daelus-OrbOfFire> were you guys kidding about underwater races and such? 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