Captured by Iroko in ATS's #atriarch (irc.stratics.com) channel on March 8, 2002 (edited by Herok)
Motherboard Compatability
{Azrial} serafina, can you make sure that atriarch works with an kr7a-133 motherboard, and Geforce 2 Ultra Card?
{Azrial} so i dont have to murder you, like i will many other game developers
{Serafina} Azrial... I'll pass along your request to the kr7a-133 motherboard compatibility committee at WF
{Azrial} appreciate it
Weekend Fun
{Serafina} heya peoples
{Serafina} What do most of you do on the weekends? Play games? go out? work? sports?
{shorgs} go out, and play games
{shorgs} and study....sometimes
{Serafina} Do you ever web surf just fo rthe hell of it?
{shorgs} got a piercing this friday.
{Serafina} shorgs... lovely
{shorgs} and yea....usually late at nights when I can't sleep
{shorgs} or in class
{Serafina} hmm... just curious
{Serafina} Other than online world games, I wonder what people do as their 2nd most favorite thing:-)
You're a Gem
{Serafina} Hello my Arazuelite, my love
{Serafina} I think I am going to name a rare stone in Atriarch, Arazuelite
{shorgs} sounds like a drink...
{Serafina} lol
Captured by Iroko in ATS's #atriarch (irc.stratics.com) channel on March 9, 2002 (edited by Herok)
Death Mythos Contest
{WF_Jaruh} we need more AT-death myths
{Korak} like?
{WF_Jaruh} well, the player knows about permadeath
{WF_Jaruh} but the characters/cultures would have their explanations
{Korak} hmm, you might be onto something
{WF_Jaruh} I think I just made a contest
{DavidQuick} Attacking the oompa loompa
WF_Jaruh reads back what he wrote
{Korak} now, could you come up with funny but in a way, serious conflicts...
{WF_Jaruh} Indeed!
{WF_Jaruh} You're all privvy to a keep-me-awake-for-the-next-while contest :)
{DavidQuick} popies
{DavidQuick} popies will put him to sleeeep
{DavidQuick} sleeep
{WF_Jaruh} i thought poppies had the opposite
{WF_Jaruh} bleh
WF_Jaruh snores
{DavidQuick} sleep
DavidQuick riffles through you pockets
{WF_Jaruh} pockets?
{DavidQuick} you have no money
{WF_Jaruh} that's true DQ
{WF_Jaruh} WOO ATRIARCH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
{WF_Jaruh} i just read my e-mail
P2P props
{Korak} you really liked what I said jaruh?
{Korak} on p2p
{WF_Jaruh} most of it :)
{WF_Jaruh} you're good at instigating and keeping on track
{Korak} either they just didn't get it, too jaded/cynical, or I didn't phrase it very well / put into context
{WF_Jaruh} mostly jaded i think
{Korak} oo mahrin agreed that building/lego system can make or break Atriarch 8)
{WF_Jaruh} well, its the central innovator to him
Celebrating ATV
{DavidQuick} atv's two years old this month
{WF_Jaruh} really? thought it was older
{WF_Jaruh} congrats!
{Korak} cool.
{DavidQuick} I cant believe I've been here that long
{WF_Jaruh} hehe
Drasius Explored
{Serafinaa} Synon|FoA... no, content meeting
{Serafinaa} We are going over some of the Eshlar architecture.
{Serafinaa} There is a huge sea platform that comes out from a bay in Drasius.
{Serafinaa} The Drasius platform is in the city of Drasius which is in the region of Gloran.
{Synon|FoA} Is Drasius on the west coast?
{Synon|FoA} gloran... drasius... must remember these!
{Serafinaa} Synon|FoA... you know, that is a really good question. I'm not sure. I'd have to look up on my map.
{Serafinaa} The platform is 1.2 square
{Serafinaa} 1.2 km
{Synon|FoA} holy...
{Serafinaa} It is large. Everything is large in Atriarch.
{Synon|FoA} does it float or is it supported?
{Serafinaa} It has really large supports.
{Synon|FoA} awesome!
{Synon|FoA} So we can build underwater?
{Serafinaa} I don't know if you can, but we can *evil grin*
{Synon|FoA} eef!
{Serafinaa} The whole water thing is still not certain. I still maintain that if we support water stuff for the first release, then it is a bonus.
{Synon|FoA} building on land is good enough for me ;)
{Serafinaa} Yes, but I'm afraid Eyeke will hunt me down if we don't at least have sea creatures you can ride on ;-)
{Synon|FoA} just fly on a shap with its feet in the water, close enough ;)
Convergent Social Cultures?
{Serafinaa} chatting is one form of socialization, but there are many more
{EolirinXianve} Serafina, if the goal is to be exposed to many more things that you would on your own, then the net is more suitable than the real world.
{Serafinaa} EolirinXianve... an online experience is only one medium. I think there are many more types of mediums through which socialization should be experienced
{Serafinaa} Also, you choose who and what you do online. School doesn't give you that opportunity with complete freedom.
{Serafinaa} You have to do things you don't want... work with people you don't necessarily like.
{Serafinaa} It forces you into other perspectives you would never choose to have yourself.
{EolirinXianve} Serafina... um... you don't hang around here very long do you :p
{Serafinaa} You don't have to agree with those perspectives, but at least you are exposed to them.
{EolirinXianve} at least... not during any of the massive debates.
{Serafinaa} EolirinXianve.... I agree that online environments mimic offline environments.
{EolirinXianve} we are constantly forcing our perspectives onto other people. :p
{Serafinaa} However, if your only socialization comes from text on a screen, then you are missing out on a lot of what is out there for you.
{Serafinaa} You don't have to go to college to go through the socialization and development that I'm talking about.
{Serafinaa} I'm just saying it is one of the best places in my opinion for it.
{Serafinaa} EolirinXianve.. not all of us are forcing our perspectives on other people. To voice an perspective doesn't mean you expect someone else to have the same one, nor does it mean you are forcing it.
{Serafinaa} However, in college, many professors force a perspective on you for the time you are in their class. They stretch your mind to think another way... or at least they should.
{Serafinaa} wow, I"m just a typing maniac today
{Serafinaa} My fingers sound like rapid fire on the keyboard
The Medium is the Message but the Tool isn't the Motive
{Serafinaa} You guys read about that kid who killed himself after playing EQ and the mother is suing?
{Serafinaa} I feel sad that people think games are such a problem.
{Armadilla} yeah, i read that
{Serafinaa} That's like saying playing sports is the reason some people do steroids.
{EolirinXianve} playing sports IS the reason some people do steroids. but it's not the ONLY reason.
{Serafinaa} EolirinXianve... no, sport is not the reason. Them not being satisfied with how they are doing is the reason.
{EolirinXianve} Serafina, they couldn't be disatisfied if they weren't doing it to begin with!!
{Serafinaa} EolirinXianve... of course they would.
{EolirinXianve} Not with the sport, and thus they'd do something other than steriods.
{Serafinaa} EolirinXianve... yes, that analogy doesn't work one for one. My point is that we choose what we do and don't do, something being there doesn't.
{ender} then you do steroids AND are obssessed with video games.
{Armadilla} MMORPGS as a microcosm of society was a good article too
{EolirinXianve} Serafina, as I said it isn't the ONLY reason.
{Serafinaa} EolirinXianve... it isn't a reason at all
{EolirinXianve} However the medium determines the form of poison.
{EolirinXianve} Sure it is, it's what makes it steroids instead of herion.
{Serafinaa} EolirinXianve... a sport cannot be a reason. A game cannot be a reason. Motives are reasons.
{Serafinaa} Our actions are reasons.
{EolirinXianve} The sport is the reason that the chosen poison is what it is.
{Serafinaa} Things are not reasons.
{EolirinXianve} Sport = medium = selection of poison
{Serafinaa} The tool doesn't define the reason, it is still just a tool.
{EolirinXianve} Serafina, the medium determines the tool, the usage of the tool is a result of choice. However you'd be using a completely different tool should you be in a different medium.
{Serafinaa} I agree to the extent that there are many tools that could be used and some are better than others for certain things.
{EolirinXianve} Thus one can say that sports would make one take steroids rather than something else, because it fits the medium.
{Serafinaa} But that still doesn't have anything to do with the reason someone does something
{EolirinXianve} It has to do with why they chose to do the particular tool they use.
{EolirinXianve} to use the
{EolirinXianve} gah.
{Serafinaa} EolirinXianve... yes, I agree that there are reasons for choosing a particular tool, but that has nothing to do with the reason someone chooses *a tool in the first place which is the reason for the action
{EolirinXianve} Serafina, indeed, however, your statement used a specific tool in which the medium did play a part in selecting. :p
{EolirinXianve} You needed to completely generalize your statement :p
{Serafinaa} Yes, well, it was the first analogy that came to my head which is why I followed up with it isn't a one for one analogy
{Serafinaa} I still believe though that the reason someone chooses to do something has nothing to do with the tool used.
{EolirinXianve} Serafina, and I'd agree with that.
{Serafinaa} The reasons for choosing a particular tool is along another line of decision making than the reason for doing it
{EolirinXianve} Just that the medium does affect which tool is used.
{Serafinaa} Yes, the medium does affect which tool is used. I agree with that.
{EolirinXianve} Like I said, it's far less likely to see anime fanaticals taking large amounts of steroids, while it's far more likely for a body builder to do so.
{Speranza} EolirinXianve if they havn't won they are winning, Serafina go make us a game and quite talking, hehe
{EolirinXianve} Speranza, aye they are winning.
{Serafinaa} Speranza... hush you... I'm on a sugar high and no one is getting in my way of that
{Speranza} Serafina, sounds like a plan! lets all get High!
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